World Upside Down

Welcome to World Upside Down, the official podcast of Indianapolis Theological Seminary, where we engage in deep theological discussions on ”load-bearing” doctrines of the Christian faith. Each episode delves into a key Scriptural topic from a unique perspective, providing valuable insights for current and future ministry leaders.

Episodes

Aug 19, 2026

55 min

In this episode of World Upside Down, Dr. Matthew Patton explains how Christ’s announcement of the kingdom of God is rooted in the Old Testament prophetic tradition, and how the church is central to that kingdom.
From Eden to the new creation, this conversation explores how God is gathering a people, ruling through his appointed King, and displaying the realities of the age to come even now.
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Aug 19, 2026

55 min

Jul 28, 2026

1 hr 12 min

For nearly two thousand years, Christians have wrestled with the relationship between the church and the state. Who has authority and where should the boundaries be drawn? In this episode of World Upside Down, Dr. Brannon Ellis traces that question across church history: from the persecution of early Christians under Rome, to the rise of Christendom, the Reformation, and the American approach to religious liberty. Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Jul 28, 2026

1 hr 12 min

Jul 21, 2026

56 min

“Already, not yet” is a familiar Christian phrase, but it can become a shortcut that seeks to explain everything and therefore explains little.
Today's conversation explores the phrase's biblical substance. Nicholas Piotrowski and Roger Williams discuss how the promises of resurrection, Christ’s reign, Satan’s defeat, etc. have truly begun in Jesus Christ, even though believers still await their full experience at his return.
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Jul 21, 2026

56 min

Jul 1, 2026

56 min

In this episode of World Upside Down, we explore the church’s relationship to Christ’s reign and how Christians should think wisely about politics, public authority, and faithful witness under the lordship of Christ.
*A brief clarification: around the five-minute mark, Dr. Schrock mentions Stanley Hauerwas, but the intended reference was to Oliver O’Donovan.*
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Jul 1, 2026

56 min

Jun 16, 2026

51 min

Jesus' announcement that “the kingdom of God is at hand” was not a vague spiritual slogan—it was his public declaration that God’s reign was arriving on earth. Dr. Nicholas Perrin helps us see how that announcement connects all the way from Eden to the church’s life in the world today.
Leave a comment below and click the following link to be entered to win a copy of Dr. Perrin's book, The Kingdom of God: A Biblical Theology: https://forms.gle/xr28WFs3jWHmY6r89 Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Jun 16, 2026

51 min

Jun 2, 2026

53 min

God's people have always been tempted to want a king *like the nations,* but the Old Testament says that's exactly the wrong kind of king.
In this episode, Dr. Kris Holroyd opens Season 3 of World Upside Down with a deep dive into the kingdom of God as it unfolds in Scripture–from Genesis 1, to David, to the anticipation of Christ.
In this conversation:
- What does "kingdom of God" actually mean in the Old Testament and where does it start? - What does Deuteronomy 17 tell us about the kind of king God wants and why no horses? - How does David's kingdom give us a glimpse of what God always intended? - Why did Israel miss Jesus and why does the church keep making the same mistake? - What are the signs that a pastor (or a Christian) has placed their hope in political power rather than in Christ? - How do Daniel and Revelation reframe our view of world governments and what should that do to us?
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info
World Upside Down is the podcast of Indianapolis Theological Seminary — a confessionally reformed, evangelical seminary committed to equipping gospel ministers for the church.

Jun 2, 2026

53 min

Apr 14, 2026

1 hr 3 min

What if Sunday morning worship is doing more to shape you than you realize? In this season 2 finale of World Upside Down, Dr. Mike Farley joins us to explore why the doctrine of creation is an often missing foundation in our Sunday liturgies.
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Apr 14, 2026

1 hr 3 min

Mar 31, 2026

54 min

Sunsets didn’t have to be stunning. Landscapes didn’t have to move us. So what does the beauty of creation reveal about the Creator—and about us as his image-bearers? In this episode of World Upside Down, we sit down with pastor and author Russ Ramsey to explore how the Christian doctrine of creation shapes our understanding of beauty and art. Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Mar 31, 2026

54 min

Mar 17, 2026

54 min

Speaking words is a powerful, intimate, and deeply human thing to do. How does the story of creation inform this claim? Dr. Kris Holroyd guides us through the creation narrative, speech act theory, its implications for life and ministry, along with practical guidelines for Sabbath rest and recovery for our physical bodies in a busy world. 
Timestamps00:00 – Introduction00:37 – Is Creation Relevant for Ministry?01:40 – God's First "Speech Act" Informs Life05:54 – The Purpose & Power of Preaching10:03 – Importance of "Word Ministry"18:10 – Stewarding our Speech19:51 – Speaking for the Creation25:56 – Speech + Matter = The Lord's Supper 30:16 – Sabbath as Resistance, Rest, and Renewal47:07 – How to Sabbath as a Pastor50:26 – Spiritual Prayers for the Physical Body
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Mar 17, 2026

54 min

Mar 3, 2026

50 min

How does God define our reality? What's the right way to live in his world? Dr. David Schrock helps us restore our sense of reality, ethics, and what it means to be human. Timestamps: 00:00 — New Book: "The Business of Is-Ness" 01:10 — Confusion About Creation 03:49 — The Creator & The Purpose of His Cosmos 05:18 — Remembering Sexed Differences 13:29 — Remembering Our Dependence and Neediness 15:26 — Remembering Our Spatial Limits in a Technological Age 19:06 — Dangers of Denying Our Humanness (Transhumanism & AI) 24:06 — How to "Humanize" Ourselves Again 27:02 — Thinking Biblically About Culture & Politics 30:08 — The Need to Recover Creation Theology 34:41 — Spiritual Disciplines for Recovering Our Humanity 46:52 — How to Age Well (Advice for Young & Old) 50:10 — Closing: Schrock's New Book Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info#DoctrineOfCreation #ChristianDiscipleship #Theology #Ontology #Embodiment #TheologyOfTheBody #Marriage #AIethics #Transhumanism #Sabbath #SpiritualDisciplines

Mar 3, 2026

50 min

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