World Upside Down
Welcome to World Upside Down, the official podcast of Indianapolis Theological Seminary, where we engage in deep theological discussions on ”load-bearing” doctrines of the Christian faith. Each episode delves into a key Scriptural topic from a unique perspective, providing valuable insights for current and future ministry leaders.
Episodes

Feb 14, 2026
Feb 14, 2026
1 hr 26 min
How does Scripture invite us to think about the categories of race, culture, ethnicity and identity? In this episode of World Upside Down, Pastor Gus Pritchard reflects on growing up in apartheid South Africa and argues that cultural identity is indeed creational, yet not fixed, and that the ultimate identity of Christians is found in their union with Jesus Christ. Timestamps: 00:00 — Opening & Aim (Race, Ethnicity, Culture, Identity) 02:05 — Apartheid Memories & Guarded Boundaries 12:02 — Adoption Training That Re-inscribes Segregation 15:01 — Define “Culture” & “Cultural Identity” (Language & Religion) 18:06 — Scriptural Drivers (Gen 2; Gen 10–11) 26:55 — Thesis: Cultural Identity Is Malleable 28:03 — Scriptural Examples: Ruth & Joseph 35:34 — 1 Cor 9 — “Becoming As…” for Mission 41:12 — Revelation 7 — Unity with Real Diversity 51:10 — Culture-Sharing vs. “Cultural Appropriation” 59:00 — What Counts as Cross-Cultural Marriage 1:16:24 — Union with Christ — Holding Identity Loosely Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info#CulturalIdentity #BiblicalTheology #RaceAndEthnicity #DoctrineOfCreation #UnionWithChrist #CrossCultural #Missions #Adoption #Marriage #ChurchUnity

Jan 28, 2026
Jan 28, 2026
1 hr 5 min
What does it really mean to be made in God’s image? Dr. Christopher Watkin unpacks this alongside the cultural mandate to show how Genesis 1 grounds our everyday life. Timestamps 00:00 — Opening & Big Questions (image of God, creation mandate) 00:50 — Guest Intro: Dr. Christopher Watkin 01:07 — “Cultural” vs “Creation” Mandate (why both terms work) 01:44 — “Thinking Through” Creation: Three Senses 03:33 — God Creates by Speaking: Truth, Power, Relationship 06:04 — Not Solipsistic: Trinity & a Relational Reality 08:03 — Love vs Power: Why the Trinity Changes Everything 12:03 — God Lacks Nothing: Creation as Gift, Not Need 15:19 — Church as Participation: Word, New Creation, Liturgy 17:48 — Diagonalization: A Biblical Path Beyond False Binaries 24:37 — Example: Image of God (humbling and dignifying) 25:19 — Method Hints: 1 Corinthians 1; Prodigal’s Two Brothers 29:47 — Politics & Camps: Commit Without Being Captured 33:36 — Truth → Strategy → Tactics (don’t reverse-engineer truth) 35:14 — Creation Before Fall: The Measure for Cultural Critique 42:02 — 1 Corinthians 15: Labor in the Lord Is Not in Vain 45:53 — Why French Philosophy Helped (reading from the “inside”) 54:03 — Sabbath: Humane Limits & Witness in a 24/7 Culture 57:41 — Work Without Idolatry; Good Work vs. Destructive Work 59:01 — “Communion Before Commission”: Identity Then Activity 1:00:08 — Fill and Subdue: Home & Public, Manual & Intellectual 1:05:05 — Closing & Giveaway Note Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info
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#ImagoDei #CreationMandate #BiblicalTheology #Trinity #Sabbath #Vocation #Culture #Apologetics #Genesis #BiblicalCriticalTheory #Discipleship #Church #Philosophy #NewCreation

Jan 14, 2026
Jan 14, 2026
52 min
Is redemption just forgiveness, or far more? Dr. T. Desmond Alexander traces the Exodus Passover pattern, showing how it restores access to God’s presence and anticipates Christ. Along the way, he explains why redemption includes the renewal of creation—fueling real Christian hope.Timestamps 00:00 — Opening & Guest Intro 01:12 — Exodus: From Oppression to God’s Presence (Tabernacle's Goal) 03:02 — What is a Priest? 04:43 — Firstborn & Levites as Substitutes (Exod 13; Num 3, 8) 08:01 — Passover Pattern: Ransom, Purification, Consecration 14:05 — Jesus as the Passover Lamb (John, Revelation) 20:05 — “Royal Priesthood”: Access Now, Glory Not Yet (1 Pet 2) 24:02 — Justification as Ransom (“Redeem” Verbs: ga’al & pādâ) 26:34 — Beyond Verdict: Cleansed & Made Holy 29:03 — Biblical Theology vs. Systematic Theology 36:07 — Advice to Pastors: Keeping Christ Central 39:04 — Redemption of Creation (Isaiah; Rev 21–22) 46:10 — Beginning of New Creation in Christ 49:15 — Pastors: Model Reading Scripture; Teach the Big Story 52:05 — Wrap Up Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-infoEnter for a chance to win a copy of Dr. Alexander's book, From Eden to the New Jerusalem: An Introduction to Biblical Theology: https://forms.gle/64orBgPu4Zj483ox8#BiblicalTheology #Redemption #Passover #Exodus #Jesus #NewCreation #KingdomOfGod #BibleStudy #Theology #Christianity #Gospel #Seminary

Dec 23, 2025
Dec 23, 2025
1 hr 44 min
For Christmas, we're pressing pause on our regular World Upside Down programming. In this special episode, Dr. P delivers a sweeping, 40,000-foot overview of the Bible’s grand storyline—from creation and fall, through promise and exile, to fulfillment in Christ. Rather than focusing on a single text or theme, this message traces the coherence of Scripture itself: one unfolding story centered on God’s presence, God’s promises, and God’s King.
Though not originally delivered on Christmas, this message is especially fitting for the season. Christmas is most glorious when seen within the larger biblical narrative—the long-awaited arrival of the Seed of the woman, the Son of David, and the true restoration of humanity to the presence of God.
If you’ve ever wondered how the whole Bible fits together—or how your own story fits within God’s—this lecture offers clarity, depth, and hope.
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Dec 16, 2025
Dec 16, 2025
1 hr 17 min
In this episode of World Upside Down, we trace how the early church confronted rival worldviews like Gnosticism, Marcionism, Arianism, and ancient materialism, and why confessing God as the maker of all things, visible and invisible was not a side issue, but essential to the gospel itself. Along the way, we consider how creation and redemption are inseparable, why the Trinity grounds creation as a free act of divine generosity, and how losing the doctrine of creation leads to confusion about truth, meaning, human dignity, and vocation.
Interested in going deeper? Learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how you can take your next step toward robust theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Dec 3, 2025
Dec 3, 2025
1 hr 8 min
What does Revelation tell us about the new creation? How does it transform your Christian life and ministry? Dr. Tom Schreiner walks through Revelation 21–22, showcasing how its symbolism feeds the imagination and nourishes our soul, pointing us towards what God is going to do to restore the world.
Timestamps:
00:00 — Topics to Cover in this Episode
01:17 — Eden in Rev 21–22 ("Healing of the Nations")
05:48 — New Creation is BETTER Than Eden
07:13 — Enhancing the Image of God
10:18 — Perfecting the Creation (City, River, No Temple)
13:42 — Should We Read Revelation Symbolically?
16:45 — Referents: What the Symbol Communicates (Beast, Dragon, etc.)
19:56 — Is There a Literal New Jerusalem?
23:43 — Revelation as the Climax of the Bible
26:27 — "Sea is No More" (End of Evil/Chaos)
30:39 — "Tree on Either Side of the River" (God Provides Forever)
33:04 — "Walls w/ Open Gates" (Safest Place Imaginable)
34:37 — “No Night” (No Moral Evil)
36:42 — What Can We Bring With Us? ("Glory and Honor of the Nations")
44:06 — "He Who Conquers" (Sonship Theme)
45:08 — About Dr. Schreiner (Serving the Church & Seminary Education)
53:45 — Ezekiel’s Temple (& New Testament as Interpretive Guide)
1:01:23 — Significance of the Ending to the Bible (Application for Today) Interested in going deeper?
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#Revelation #NewCreation #NewJerusalem #Eschatology #BiblicalTheology #Apocalyptic #BibleStudy #ChristianPodcast #TomSchreiner #Theology

Nov 18, 2025
Nov 18, 2025
54 min
What did the Old Testament prophets expect when they spoke of a coming new creation, and how does Jesus’s life, death, and resurrection launch that new reality today? Dr. Nicholas Piotrowski and Pastor Roger Williams explore Jesus’s miracles, the overlap of the ages, and Paul’s vision of believers as firstfruits of God’s renewed world. This episode gives listeners a clear, hope-filled framework for understanding inaugurated eschatology, life in the Spirit, and what it means to be part of God’s new creation right now.
For those interested in going deeper, learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how to take the next step toward a Christ-centered journey of theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info

Nov 5, 2025
Nov 5, 2025
51 min
What if Genesis 1–2 launches a God-centered story that the whole Old Testament keeps advancing until new creation dawns in Christ? Dr. Jason DeRouchie traces that amazing narrative through the Bible in our latest video of World Upside Down.
0:00 – Welcome to Dr. DeRouchie
0:34 – What You Should NOT Miss About Genesis 1 & 2
8:21 – God-Centered Understanding of the World
13:55 – The Light Always Triumphs Over the Darkness
15:57 – One Way of Applying Genesis 1 & 2
17:03 – The Garden of Eden as a "Sanctuary"
22:09 – The Rest of the Story: The Fall Resolved
28:19 – "De-Creation" Before New Creation
36:36 – Our Purpose in God's Story
38:38 – Moses' Hope: The Promised Land
42:08 – The Church as Seed of Jesus
47:04 – Humanity's Failure & Jesus' Death in Our Place
49:14 – Creation is the Context of Our Life
51:22 – The Old Testament is Messianic
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Oct 17, 2025
Oct 17, 2025
1 hr 6 min
In this episode, Dr. John Currid helps us answer some questions from critics regarding the biblical creation account. We also discuss what Genesis 1–2 reveals about who God is, why he created, and how Genesis sets up the whole Bible.

Sep 29, 2025
Sep 29, 2025
55 min
How can we know the New Testament we read today is the same as when it was first written down? Dr. Peter Williams, Principal of Tyndale House Cambridge, discusses the fascinating work behind the Tyndale House Greek New Testament, exploring how manuscripts are studied, how the New Testament was handed down, and why textual criticism is relevant for Christians and seminarians alike.Dr. Williams Interview 0:00 — Introduction to Books With Shelf Life 0:49 — Why Should Christians Care About the Biblical Languages? 3:59 — How Did We Get The Greek New Testament We Have Today? 5:59 — Have We Lost The Original Words of God? (Answering Skeptics) 13:00 — Textual Criticism in Seminary Education 14:11 — We Should Be Interested in God's Words 16:28 — What Manuscripts Should We Listen To? (Manuscript Variants) The Tyndale House Greek New Testament (THGNT)20:07 — Publishing Date & Why It Matters (Context) 22:16 — Specific Features & Options for Purchase 23:52 — What is Unique About it According to Dr. Williams? 26:13 — Restoring the New Testament to its Original Order (THGNT Method) 32:54 — Weaknesses in Other GNTs & Tyndale Houses' Solutions 35:58 — 100's and 1,000's of Manuscripts (& Its Impact for Editors)Dr. Williams Interview (Continued) 38:08 — What is Tyndale House & Why Does it Exist? 40:30 — The Surprising Genius of Jesus 42:26 — Names in the Old Testament Support Its Truthfulness (Tyndale House's Old Testament Project) 44:05 — How We Know the New Testament Was Accurately Handed Down 48:12 - Preview to Tyndale House Greek NT (2nd Edition) (50 Small Changes) 49:47 — Marking Quotations of the Old Testament 52:10 — Dr. Williams' Hopes for the THGNT 52:28 — Rapid-Fire Questions for Dr. Williams (Taylor's Speed Round) For those interested in going deeper, learn more about Indianapolis Theological Seminary and how to take the next step toward a Christ-centered journey of theological education: https://go.indysem.org/request-more-info




